“We used to do deals that were 2-3x, now 4x is more normal even with higher rates.”

James Andersen · Buyers and Builders · $2B Investor on People, 29x Returns & the Future of Private Equity

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Increase comfortable debt leverage from ~2-3x to 4x in deals

4x

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