“‘embedded auditors that are inside and make judgments about, oh, is this actually a safety team or is this like a capabilities team disguised as a safety team’”

Alan Chan, GovAI · "The Cognitive Revolution" · Governing AI Agents: Alan Chan of GovAI on Monitoring, Agent IDs, Rogue Agents & Preparing for RSI

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called for embedding third-party auditors inside AI development pipelines to certify safety measures

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“We have embedded auditors with a lot of access and power ... they can look into how much the company is spending on compute versus human labor versus data”
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