“I went out and did free internships when I worked at agencies, tried to figure out what I liked, what I didn't like”

“While he was in graduate school, Zimmerman did a two-month internship at Jane Street, the elite quantitative trading firm, and he worked part-time for another investment firm.”

“One of the best investments you can make right now in marketing is case studies on work you've done and radiating out who you stand for as a practice”

“Making data literacy very practical, making it role-based and connecting it to real work… pair that framework then with agency-specific examples”

“You can do the independent thing that I did, which is getting published, establishing your own voice... seeking out your traditional networks by getting into the national security angle of things, getting internships”