“We also episodically hedge what we call black swan risk. We look for, you know, the event that could cause a market crash. And the way we manage that risk is by buying these sort of asymmetric instruments, credit default swabs, various kinds of options to hedge.”
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Hedge black-swan risk by buying asymmetric instruments such as credit-default swaps and options
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