“Always have a plan b what it means is that be building yourself while you're on whatever job in the marketplace be looking up build up upwards”

“Make yourself and your work much more visible upwards… telling people about the work that you're doing.”

“The square meter of housing, if you build upwards, costs about twice as much as the square meter of housing building outwards.”

“I’ve never met anyone successful who has a plan B… If you have a plan B, you’re going to have a plan C… you’re always going to settle.”

“You can have a centralized team to build those components that are common across all services… Here’s how you use it rather than having you build all that yourself.”