“Every time we do our executive leaders programme, we go out on the walker... it provides a really good reflection point for people to think about themselves and how they're interacting with others”

“Walker Bear, is there. And he puts an executive order down on the desk. And he says, please review. And it was the glyphosate EO that says it's a national security issue”

“You had eight student participants, five out of eight, increase their scores in at least three reflective dimensions after the debriefing. And nobody showed a decrease in reflective depth.”

“Ken Jones was one that was a great leader. He was unbelievable what he was. He was a great man. And we had rosters for lookout, rosters for paddling. And that worked itself pretty well.”

“I keep a diary as a leader. And I used to write - I still do. I write in my diary every few months to reflect upon my own leadership and my own experience.”